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FFRF Billboard Campaign in Albuquerque
Hypatia
Today my husband and I took a little drive and found 4 of the 10 billboards the Freedom From Religion Foundation has placed around Albuquerque. We were glad that all four of the ones we saw were different from each other.

I think they're supposed to be up for a month, or more if possible.

On Comanche N.E.:
[IMG]http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l206/beadbum/Comanche2FFRF.jpg[/IMG]

On 2nd St.N.W.:
[IMG]http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l206/beadbum/2ndSt1FFRF.jpg[/IMG]

On Eubank N.E.:
[IMG]http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l206/beadbum/Eubank2FFRF.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l206/beadbum/Eubank4FFRF.jpg[/IMG]

On Menaul Blvd. N.E.:
[IMG]http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l206/beadbum/Menaul4FFRF.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l206/beadbum/Menaul5FFRF.jpg[/IMG]

Anyone else see any where you live? Get any photos?
 
derF
I haven't seen any out here in California Patia but that may be because they probably think atheism to doing fairly well out here without the help. I would like to hear some of the negative reaction you hear about it in the local news.
I'll drink to that. Or anything else for that matter.
 
comfortable
Although I understand the sentiment, and although I've been a dues-paying member of FFRF, the futility of such gestures seems to escape those who spend good money on such projects.

If Darwin taught us anything, it's that we are the product of selection pressures. For whatever survival advantage emotions conferred upon our ancestors, jealousy, greed, anger, compassion, irrational faith in magick (superstition), and the irrational hunger for a supreme authority will always be with us - unless and until 'smart' people start having more babies than superstitious people. Yay Darwin.
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The fewer the facts, the stronger the opinion.
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Men are sheep in credulity, but wolves for conformity.
 
Hypatia
derF, don't remember for sure right off, but I think FFRF did a billboard campaign in San Fransisco. They may have done some others in CA too.

comfortable, I can't agree that these billboard and bus campaigns are futile. While they may not accomplish the most we could hope for, at least not largely, which would be to have (certain) people 'get' from them that it's really okay to relax and understand that religion isn't even necessary, much less likely true, I think there has been clear evidence that they do accomplish something, none the less.

For one thing, they stand for an/another actual working exercise in free speech, and the fact that some protest the signs is proof that they do make people think, in some respect or another, and the protests sometimes also show that some people are very particular where they want to be 'tolerant' about by whom and where and how free speech is used.

Also, it isn't uncommon for FFRF to gain new members from areas where these campaigns are done, so that is, in many ways, a 'win' situation.

IMO FFRF seems to make intelligent decisions about much of what they do, including how they handle/spend their finances. So I think if either the billboard or bus campaigns in any way became a 'futile' effort, the foundation would/will stop doing them (stands to reason).

 
Doubting Thomas
Atheist-themed billboards out here in the bible belt? Ha! That's a good one. If there were they'd get vandalized sooner than you could say "Christian love."

I don't think the billboard campaign is totally useless since it does let atheists out there know that they're not alone. Plus it also lets Christians know that they no longer have a total stranglehold on the country.

However, I wish they hadn't put up one saying, "Praise Darwin." Too many Christians already think that we atheists worship Darwin as a god or think that evolution is a religion. You don't have to believe in the Theory of Evolution to be an atheist, and you don't have to be an atheist to believe in the ToE. Granted, evolution does seem to be a Christian vs. atheist issue, but I think it's just reinforcing the misconception that we all practice something called evolutionism or Darwinism.

I really do like the ones that say "Keep religion out of government."
You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me and not you.
 
catman
There were a couple of the billboards up in Fort Worth last year, which stated something like 'You are not alone'. They didn't attract all that much attention. The TV stations did report on them in a sort of 'look what those crazy people are up to' sort of way.

I'm all for 'em. Even if they have little immediate effect, at least they show that we're out here, that not everyone in DFW is a theist, and that the North Texas Church of Freethought exists.
 
Cynic
The way I see it, doing things like this over and over again will have one very positive effect even if any given individual attempt accomplishes little: the controversy dies. That's the first step to acceptance for a fringe or otherwise unpopular group, that when you step up and say something the worst you get is a shrug.
 
Hypatia
Doubting Thomas wrote:
Atheist-themed billboards out here in the bible belt? Ha! That's a good one. If there were they'd get vandalized sooner than you could say "Christian love."

I don't think the billboard campaign is totally useless since it does let atheists out there know that they're not alone. Plus it also lets Christians know that they no longer have a total stranglehold on the country.

However, I wish they hadn't put up one saying, "Praise Darwin." Too many Christians already think that we atheists worship Darwin as a god or think that evolution is a religion. You don't have to believe in the Theory of Evolution to be an atheist, and you don't have to be an atheist to believe in the ToE. Granted, evolution does seem to be a Christian vs. atheist issue, but I think it's just reinforcing the misconception that we all practice something called evolutionism or Darwinism.

I really do like the ones that say "Keep religion out of government."


Agreed, and well put.

derF asked about local negative reaction - here are a couple three local things about the campaign. These are all I've seen so far.


Anti-religion billboards surface
[url]http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/local/central/anti-religion-billboards-surface[/url]

Billboards Stir Controversy
[url]http://www.koat.com/news/21681987/detail.html[/url]

The evening news video version
http://www.koat.com/video/21681856/index.html

I love the timing of these going up at this particular time of the year!

In 'a perfect World' there'd be no need for such billboards and bus signs. But since we're dealing with what we are, I'm glad these signs are 'creating some controversy'. All in all, I take that as a good sign (pardon the pun).
 
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