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Oh, the Irony...
Bob of QF
McCain had the brass-ones to say this:
In the 21st century, nations don't invade other nations.


Link

No hint of remorse, no hint of sarcasm, no hint that he recognized the abject irony of a member of the US government saying that.

None.

Has the man no shame at all? Not even a shred?

*sigh*

Anyone who actually votes for him is seriously out of touch with reality as the rest of us see it.
Quantum Junction: Use both lanes

Reality is that which is left, after you stop believing.
 
catman
Absolutely right. I get the same feeling when Dubya takes it upon himself to lecture the world on how it should comport itself.
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
Kallistie
Oh dear. Did his handlers hide the paper from him that morning?
 
neilmarr
You guys heard anything yet of the outcome of the famous presidential Christianity quizz? Neil
 
catman
I haven't heard yet. The whole business makes me want to retch. Both candidates need to suck up to the evangelicals. What a hideous thought.
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
Sinny
neilmarr wrote:
You guys heard anything yet of the outcome of the famous presidential Christianity quizz? Neil


Are you talking about Saddleback? That's on again Sunday night at 8pm on CNN.

http://www.cnn.co...cnn_latest

I thin some of it is on Youbube.
 
Skeeve
I've read a few things about it, but haven't watched it. Probably won't. The most telling to come out of it was that fact that Obama took it as a discussion and McCain used it for campaigning, always referring what he's done and going to do if elected.

He really is a sad old man. Sad
"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
Bob of QF
Skeeve wrote:
I've read a few things about it, but haven't watched it. Probably won't. The most telling to come out of it was that fact that Obama took it as a discussion and McCain used it for campaigning, always referring what he's done and going to do if elected.

He really is a sad old man. Sad


"I've always been mad, I know I have."

-- Dark Side of the Moon, Pink Floyd.
Quantum Junction: Use both lanes

Reality is that which is left, after you stop believing.
 
catman
I have a rather delicate digestive system. I just don't think I could stand to watch it.
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
HolyRolyPoly
I saw most of it -- finally had to flip it off about half-way through McCain's segment, after he told his bullshit (plagarized) story about the guard who drew the cross in the dirt and they "shared a moment" (gag me), his fake shame at the failure of his first marriage, and his old-fart-shaking-fist diatribe about "evil." I hate that guy almost as much as I hate Bush-n-Cheney. I thought Obama did fine and gave thoughtful and candid responses. Not the ideal forum for him, however, in front of a bunch of evangelunks.
 
FreakMeow
HolyRolyPoly wrote:
I saw most of it -- finally had to flip it off about half-way through McCain's segment, after he told his bullshit (plagarized) story about the guard who drew the cross in the dirt and they "shared a moment" (gag me), his fake shame at the failure of his first marriage, and his old-fart-shaking-fist diatribe about "evil." I hate that guy almost as much as I hate Bush-n-Cheney. I thought Obama did fine and gave thoughtful and candid responses. Not the ideal forum for him, however, in front of a bunch of evangelunks.


Hahah I didn't watch it but the way you put made me giggle Grin
 
catman
HRP: Grin Excellent expression, 'evangelunks'!

Obama was at a disadvantage in that setting, to put it mildly. A 'kangaroo court' of sorts. Asshat McCain lost me in the excerpt I saw of it in which he said that the rights of a human being start at conception. I think it's ridiculous to assert that a zygote or blastocyte should be accorded full rights as a human being. This of course in addition to his other statements.

If this has a decisive effect on the election, the inmates have truly taken over the asylum.
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
HolyRolyPoly
Argh. Politics has made me really crazy this year. Not just this election, but all the crap going on (the war, the economy, etc). It's really one of the reasons I sort of stopped using the Atheists forum. I was just so pissed off all the time, I couldn't even focus my negative energies on religion because all my negative energy was used up already, obsessing about defeating the NeoCons.

McCain makes me so angry --- I can't even discuss it rationally anymore. My parents (who are like almost 80 and suckled on Fox News) are voting for him, and it's got me so pissed off I can hardly speak to them. They of course believe Obama is actually muslim, or a socialist, or (gasp) maybe even BOTH. I could give two shits WHO the democratic candidate is -- I'd vote for Bart Simpson at this point. I guess what I have trouble understanding is why everyone else doesn't feel the same way. WHY is John McCain polling even with Obama? (At the risk of offending anyone) -- Don't people know what a conehead he is? His willingness to go to war at the drop of the hat scares the shit out of me, as does his absolute unwavering certainty that the US cannot be defeated and must win at all costs (even if victory is unattainable without a wholesale massacre of the population, as in Iraq). Meanwhile the country is essentially bankrupted, in hock to our eyeballs to China and other foreign powers, everyone is losing their jobs, their homes, etc., and McCain now wants to fight Iran and Russia??? Just shoot me now, please.

Argh.

Sorry. Like I said, I've been getting really pissed off. A bottle of wine usually helps...
 
Sinny
catman wrote:
I have a rather delicate digestive system. I just don't think I could stand to watch it.


LOL I guess I have a stronger stomach. I liked what Obama said for the most part. There was one small answer I wasn't sure about but I can't think what is was at the moment. Anyways I ended up knowing I made the right decision to vote for Obama.

McCain absolute asshole, pardon my language if it offends but lets face it he really is an asshole. If he gets in we are all screwed, royally!! I swear it's evangelical lobbyists who get the Republicans all worked up for war so they can say "see we are heading into Armageddon" *sigh*.
Edited by Sinny on 08/20/2008 19:35
 
catman
I saw a new opinion poll which stated that McCain is now ahead of Obama. McCain's despicable negative campaign is bearing fruit among the so-called 'silent majority'. I hope this shocks complacent Democrats who think Obama has it made into waking up to the danger. I'm not just wild about Obama, but he's infinitely preferable.
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
kjbluez
catman wrote:
I saw a new opinion poll which stated that McCain is now ahead of Obama. McCain's despicable negative campaign is bearing fruit among the so-called 'silent majority'. I hope this shocks complacent Democrats who think Obama has it made into waking up to the danger. I'm not just wild about Obama, but he's infinitely preferable.
Yea, I can agree.

It is a Reuters poll that place McCain ahead of Obama. I about spat forth vomit after reading that today. Luckily, I didn't, it would not have made my computer a fun place to sit at afterwards. The complacent Democrats you speak of forget that Bush was voted into office ... twice. If the first time wasn't bad enough, even after four years he made it again.
 
catman
Right. As I've said before, the 2004 election just about destroyed what little remaining trust I had in democracy. I can still hardly believe it happened. McCain's campaign is founded on fear.
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
neilmarr
There's a full report on the presidential religious debate in today's Institute of Humanist Studies newsletter. It also contains a link to the full video recording of the thing. Cheers. Neil

http://www.humani...owAll=true
 
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