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Cult 'brainwashed' mom charged with child's killing, family says
Bob of QF
( Not sure where to put this one, if the mods think it ought to be elsewhere, please move as appropriate. )

CNEWS-World link

The first bit:

BALTIMORE - After denying Javon Thompson food and water for two days because he wouldn't say "Amen" after meals, the one-year-old's caretakers waited for a divine sign that their message had been heard: a resurrection.

For more than a week, police say in charging documents describing the scene, the child's lifeless body lay in the back room of an apartment. Queen Antoinette, the 40-year-old leader of a group that called itself 1 Mind Ministries, brought in her followers and told them to pray. God, she said, would raise Javon from the dead.

Instead, Javon's body began to decompose.


It degrades somewhat from there.

Sickening-- and this all took place not in some far-away country that is utterly devoid of modern conveniences-- but right here in the USofA.

Philadelphia, and later in New York.
Quantum Junction: Use both lanes

Reality is that which is left, after you stop believing.
 
neilmarr
***Children have been killed in similar groups for failing to follow cult teachings, Ross said, and that appears to have been the case with Javon, who was viewed as a "demon," according to police statements supporting the murder charges.***

We can only hope that the 'freedom of religion' card isn't played, as is so often the case when children are harmed or killed through the religious insanity of their parents. Jehovahs Witnesses are famous for being let off the hook after refusing basic and life-saving medical treatment to their kids.

As you say, Bob; sickening.

Neil

PS: And the ignorance of Christian sheeple is mind-boggling. How many who, inthinkingly, chant the word 'amen' realise that it echoes the name of an ancient Egyptian god rather than meaning 'so be it' as they are taught in Sunday school? To expet a year old baby to mutter it, far less know its significance, is, of course, patently moronic. N
 
RayvenAlandria
I saw this yesterday. It's terribly sad. It makes me cry to imagine what kind of abuse this child endured. I hope they do not get away with his murder.
 
catman
How incredible and appalling. I hope they don't get away with it either. "Queen Antoinette"? Give me a break!
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
neilmarr
It would seem that the leader of this insane mini-cult is even more deserving than our own Queen Antoinette of the mechanism you and I discussed at some length elsewhere, Cat. Neil
 
Kallistie
Wow. Insane, for sure.

Stuff like this (and the FGM that happens, too) don't get enough attention. Might remind people what weird stuff goes on in cults.
 
seeker
Bob of QF wrote:
( Not sure where to put this one, if the mods think it ought to be elsewhere, please move as appropriate. )

Probably should have been in Christianity but that's just me being picky
 
seeker
Its things like this that make me wary of any one who professes religious belief. Frankly I regard religion as a sign of mental instability, the only dividing line being functional or batshit crazy.
 
catman
The problem is that the religious kind of crazy is sanctioned by society, while atheism is denigrated.
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
neilmarr
Never forget that Christianity is a death cult. It worships suffering and the sacrifice of life and makes an empty promise of everlasting, heavenly bliss. Islam, of course, is no better. Neil
 
Bob of QF
What is sad, is that so many people are raised from birth to think that Christianity is "just fine" and that it's kooky dogma is "reasonable".

If you teach a very small child that insanity is normal-- the child grows up thinking that insane people are the way to be.

Most of the various flavors of Christianity are just another religious cult-- just because they are followed by millions of sheeple does not move it out of cult status--- it only makes it that much more heinous.

This article is not that far removed from "mainstream" policies and practices of many flavors of Christianity.

Years ago, when I was a volunteer for Tulsa's Child Abuse Prevention Service (CAPS) some of the sessions were held at Asbury "Methodist"* Church (when it was in it's old location).

The director of the Children's program had a stated policy: "we need to structure our programs so that the children can catch Jesus".

The implication that innocent children are somehow evil, and need redemption is very sickening to me.

One of the many insane bits of dogma that many Christian flavors routinely teach their sheeple-- from birth, so that they do not realize just how insane it really is.




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* I put it in quotes, because this particular church barely qualifies as "Methodist"-- it's in name only.
Edited by Bob of QF on 08/18/2008 20:32
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Sinny
I don't doubt this murdering bitch will get away with it. I mean she will probably be sent to therapy and in some asylum but not prison. She may get manslaughter but not murder and it should be first degree murder. What I wonder about is the fact that she continued this sickening belief could show she really didn't know any better. Of course she did but she played it out to the end. These kind of people are smart. I say that because had she changed her mind at the last minute and attempted to call 911 before her innocent victim died that would have shown she didn't really have the faith she claimed to have that led to her allowing little Javon to die. So calling the police would show she did know better and was fully aware of her actions.

I hope this queen antoinette gets the electric chair and the rest of the murdering bastards either get the same, which I much prefer, or life in prison with no possible chance of parole. If not that then at least 80 - 85 years in prison. Because that is the most likely age this Javon would have lived to be. Believe in the bible then live by it.....a life for a life. Though they claim their god forgives that is for the afterlife and this happened in this life. She is so manipulative to have followers not only go along with starving Javon to death but also to keep it all quiet. That makes her even more of a danger to society. I hope the death penalty applies, is permitted and executed in this case.

Sickening...absolutely sickening
 
FreakMeow
This is truly horrible. How could anyone just let a child die over something like this.

Some people just make me sick.

 
Bob of QF
FreakMeow wrote:
This is truly horrible. How could anyone just let a child die over something like this.

Some people just make me sick.



How can people allow babies to die?

Easy: religion.
Quantum Junction: Use both lanes

Reality is that which is left, after you stop believing.
 
catman
I don't recall the quote exactly, but the gist of it is something like, 'Good people do good things, bad people do bad things, but it takes religion to make good people do bad things'.

sinny: There is little doubt that she will 'get away with it'. I'll be surprised if she gets more than therapy. Insanity is the stock in trade of religion.
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
Hypatia
How often do we hear about adults from cults such as this dying because they choose prayer over medical care? Very rarely, if ever. It's almost always the children who die because of that choice - the choice made by adults.

Sure, there are childhood diseases, but adults have diseases too - diabetes, heart disease, high cholesterol, etc,. Are the adults perhaps 'sneaking' medication for their conditions, seeking medical care behind the others' backs, but using the children for 'experimental' purposes, to see if praying for their 'gods' healing hand and 'resurrection' will work, because they certainly don't have the courage to try it on themselves?

These people are pond scum, if that. These crimes are heart wrenching, and that so many are not punished as they should be because they do what they do in the name of their religions is infuriating.

 
Sinny
What also sickens me is that Javon didn't die because of religious conviction, or belief. No he died because of deliberate starvation, neglect and I would also inlcude abuse.

This religious cult leader had a test of wills with a child where she had the advantage, power over an innocent child. She could have easily taken away desert instead of starving him to death. Whatever religion she claims to be or whatever bible she claimed to live by I have never, that I remember, read anywhere in the canon bible, the christian bible where it says it's a sin to not say amen let alone a reason for punishment for not saying it.

If I were on that Jury I would most certain point this out and get my peers on the Jury to see Javon didn't die because of religious belief but because the leader of the cult pact had a temper tantrum and abused her authority to the point of bullying a little helpless child. Her religious beliefs had nothing to do with his death. Failing to immediately call the police might be considered her reilgious belief due to the praying for resurrection and I truthfully think that was out of desperation to get the sheeple followers to think she still had some shred of religious belief in her.

His starvation, torture, torment, abuse and death was due to her or anyones religious beliefs. I'm surprised they didn't go so far as to hide the body of little Javon to cover up what she did.
 
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