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catman
I watched an hour of the Republican Convention last night. The contrast between it and the Democratic one was amazing. How depressing it was.

Lieberman still calls himself a Democrat, asking rhetorically what he was doing at a Republican gathering. He was so smug and self-satisfeid, chuckling into the microphone after all his oh-so-clever bon mots. What a hideous little man.

The mood of the thing in general was horrible...I could hardly help comparing it to the electrifying speech by Michelle Obama on the Dems' first night. It does seem symbolic that the Dems' convention occured on the 45th anniversary of MLK's "I Have A Dream" speech, while the Repubs' was interrupted by Hurricane Gustav's landfall.
Edited by catman on 09/03/2008 02:03
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
Doubting Thomas
I thought Lieberman was an independent?
 
seeker
The funny part was when they showed the 'crowd'. There were maybe 2000 prople there as opposed to the very full crowds at the Democratic convention and it looked like there was no one in the crowd under 50.
 
catman
Lieberman described himself as a Democrat, although he isn't. He just said that to indicate that he has 'seen the light'. I have other descriptors for him, but they are best left to the imagination.

I can hardly wait to hear Sarah Palin's spellbinding oratory tonight. I find it amusing that it's OK for her daughter to be pregnant, since the impregnator has promised to marry the little hussy and will be at the convention to be feted, while all the good right-wing Christian Republicans have been condemning other young women in the same condition for decades;blackcat;.
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
Bob of QF
Say it with me.... Hypocrite. Hyp-oh-crite.

Can you spell it? (to the tune of the Mickey Mouse Club )

H-y-p.....o-c-r....i-t-ee.ee.ee.
Edited by Bob of QF on 09/03/2008 18:35
Quantum Junction: Use both lanes

Reality is that which is left, after you stop believing.
 
Skeeve
seeker wrote:
The funny part was when they showed the 'crowd'. There were maybe 2000 prople there as opposed to the very full crowds at the Democratic convention and it looked like there was no one in the crowd under 50.


What I found particularly telling was the fact that they kept showing the same black faces when going to the crowd. It was a very white night, and the only way to show their "diversity" was to keep showing the same black faces over and over because there wasn't that many to choose from.

I'm trying to watch it, waiting for Palin to speak, but Rudy is speaking now...did you know that McCain is A TRUE AMERICAN HERO!?

I may just have to wait and catch a clip of Palin on YouTube, this is too much crap to see before going to bed.
"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
catman
She read the teleprompter really well. The speech was, as I expected, a mishmash of boilerplate, half- and un-truths, and hypocrisy. The GOP wants to present itself as the the home of "mavericks" and anti-Washington establishment folks, when in reality it is the party of the rich and their accomplices. Yes, we know McCain is a war hero with great personal courage, and I respect him for that. It isn't enough.

"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
derF
Anyone who has looked into McCain's background knows that McCain's father and grandfather and other relatives were high ranking officers in the U. S. Navy. McCain was a poor student and the only reason he got into Annapolis was because of the influence of his family. Once in Annapolis he quickly gained the reputation of a party animal and womanizer who was constantly being reprimanded and demerited for his wayward ways. He eventually graduated fifth to last in his entire graduating class. He became a notoriously poor pilot who eventually was responsible for the loss of three aircraft before being ordered to Viet Nam. While there he lost yet another aircraft under non hostile conditions before finally getting himself shot down in north Viet Nam under, yet again, circumstances a better pilot would have avoided easily. He was shot down by one of North Viet Nam's least capable missiles which previously had been considered more of a nuisance than a threat. Since then he has used the celebrity he gained from his years in captivity to catapult himself to within one step of the most powerful position in the world. Add to that his decision to make Palin his vice president (a women who makes Obama look ultra experienced and you truly have some one who acts as stupid as their education would indicate and makes decisions that are questionable even considering they are being made by a 72 year old man with questionable intelligence and health.
I'll drink to that. Or anything else for that matter.
 
neilmarr
***Once in Annapolis he quickly gained the reputation of a party animal and womanizer who was constantly being reprimanded and demerited for his wayward ways***

OK, so he has a good side, Derf. I still wouldn't vote for McCain, though. Neil
 
Bob of QF
Go here
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It's a cartoon that is very apt to the current thread...
Quantum Junction: Use both lanes

Reality is that which is left, after you stop believing.
 
seeker
Palin was about what I expected, capable of giving a decent speech but intellectually lacking. Rachal Maddow pointed out that the transcript of her speech, which apparently was copied from the teleprompter scrpt, had many of the words spelled phonetically. During the speech they cut to a shot that allowed us to see the tele-prompter and you could see the word 'new-clear'.

From what I understand though whoever was running the teleprompter kept it scrolling through the applause lines which resulted in her falling off the script about halfway through so I guess she had to wing the last half of her speech.
 
catman
derF: It looks as though McCain is a lot more like George W than I realized, with the family's influence helping the poor student along and the partying. At least Palin is better looking than Cheney. But here's hoping I don't have to look at the two of them as leaders of the country.
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
Skeeve
OK, I'm watching the convention coverage, and they're showing the bio video leading up to the speech.(which I'll post when available).

Within minutes I'm already disgusted. Referring to an accident on an aircraft carrier where a missile accidentally misfired, resulting in over 100 deaths and a long burning fire, this is what they say.(paraphrased):

John McCain is uninjured, perhaps he has more to do...


God spared McCains life for something bigger???? The epitomy of conceit.

*edit*
Did you know McCain was a POW in the Vietnam War?

*9:24
Three disruptions already, people being led out of the hall. Oh, and mindless zombies chanting "U.S.A., U.S.A, U.S.A" way too much.

*9:30
I saw an African American in the crowd. Just one, in a screen full of white.
Edited by Skeeve on 09/04/2008 22:35
"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
derF
Sorry Bob of QF this cartoon belongs on this thread.

i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa98/frednorrisnielson/tomtomorrow.jpg
Edited by derF on 09/04/2008 23:10
I'll drink to that. Or anything else for that matter.
 
derF
neilmarr wrote:
***Once in Annapolis he quickly gained the reputation of a party animal and womanizer who was constantly being reprimanded and demerited for his wayward ways***

OK, so he has a good side, Derf. I still wouldn't vote for McCain, though. Neil


Oh you sarcastic SOB. Why you're nearly worse than me!








And I'll keep editing it till I get it right!
Edited by derF on 09/04/2008 23:08
I'll drink to that. Or anything else for that matter.
 
seeker
For those of you whodidn't watch McCain's speech (I don't blame you, it was a yawner) here is my biased summary.

Basically McCain spent half of his speech humbly telling us how great he acted when he was a POW. Then he basically proceeded to run agaonst the current Republican Administration by promising that his Republican Administration will clean up the corruption that the Washington insiders (the current Administration) caused. What we are supposed to believe is that the Republican candidate is better suited to reform the excesses of the Republican Party because he was a POW in Vietnam.

Most of the people in the crowd were confused by this line of thinking. Perhaps they thought they might have accidentally gone to the wrong convention. Anyway they greeted many of McCain's lines with silence as McCain threw the current republican President under the bus. Everyone cheered at the end of the speech.
 
Doubting Thomas
I only caught very little of it, enough to see some lady being escorted out of the room. I think she was holding up a sign or something and another lady grabbed it from her hands & tore it up. I guess this happened about three times during his speech.
You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me and not you.
 
neilmarr
What's puzzing me through this whole McCain stuff is what IS the difference between a win, a draw or surrender? Surely the end justifies the excuse.

We do not need a world at war. We do not need winners, losers and impotent POWs. As the old lady of Israel once said (and I ain't no great fan o' hers), 'you cannot shake hands with a clenched fist.'

Get real ... this need not be a fight to the death, merely the death of a fight.

Somebody, PLEASE, shout 'Uncle' and let's talk sense to each other in words that can be heard above the roar of bombs and the loud chatter of gunfire.

The guy is who is right is the guy with the courage to declare 'enough's enough -- now, what were you saying before this whole thinggot out of hand?'

Neil
 
catman
What I dislike most of all is the idea that the USA will not negotiate with reprehensible people. And the alternative is...No one seems to think that far, just mindlessly chant 'USA' over and over. That Party Rally atmosphere is troubling.
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
Doubting Thomas
Yeah, kind of like Munich 1936...

Did anyone else notice that when McCain was done speaking & everyone was up on the podium, they were playing Heart's song "Barracuda," an obvious reference to Sara Palin who achieved the nickname "Sara Barracuda."

Well the lyrics are not very flattering to be singing about someone, and in fact Heart wrote the song about their ex-manager who screwed them over. Here's a portion of the lyrics:

You lying so low in the weeds
I bet you gonna ambush me
Youd have me down down down down on my knees
Now wouldnt you, barracuda?

If that's the point they're trying to get across about the VP candidate, then it explains a lot. But my guess is that they've never read the lyrics. Kind of like how Reagan wanted to use Bruce Springsteen's "Born in the USA" for his campaign, even though the lyrics are about the tough times faced by a Vietnam vet returning home after the war.
You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me and not you.
 
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