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Skeeve
[Starting this thread with a repost of the first thread posted at Secular Cafe, then posting the latest thread in the second post. Posts will continue in support of Red Dave, thereafter]

This thread will be continued, more or less daily, until the War in Iraq ends. People who are against the war are invited to join as sponsors. It began as a thread on IIDB. The sponsors already listed are from IIDB, RnR and TalkRational. It may take a day or so to get this thread adjusted to this website.

Suggestions for improvement are welcome.

Sunday, August 23, 2009

2175 days into the war. SIX YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?


U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4334
U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 31469
http://www.michaelmoore.com

IRAQI DEATHS
(ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,339,771
(MINIMUM): 92,856
(MAXIMUM): 101,346
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html

COST OF THE WAR SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION): $676,160,000,000
http://www.costofwar.com

Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.)

The First Lancet Report
http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf

Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000

By David Brown
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 11, 2006

A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred.

The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government.

It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html

The Second Lancet Report
http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf

wikipedia summary of casualties
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties

Faces of the Fallen
"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
Skeeve
Tuesday, November 29, 2011

3704 days into the Afghanistan War. TEN YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?
3173 days into the Iraq War. EIGHT YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?

U.S. AND ALLIED MILITARY DEATHS IN AFGHANISTAN: 2820
http://icasualties.org/oef/
U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4483
U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 33183
http://www.michaelmoore.com

AFGHANISTANI CIVILIAN DEATHS:
(MINIMUM): 17611
(MAXIMUM): 37208
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...n_of_estimates

IRAQI DEATHS
(ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,455,590
(MINIMUM): 103,775
(MAXIMUM): 113,380
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html

COST OF THE WARS SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION):

AFGHANISTAN: $480,295,000,000
IRAQ: $805,282,000,000
TOTAL: $1,285,577,000,000
http://www.costofwar.com

Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.)

The First Lancet Report
http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf

Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000

By David Brown
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 11, 2006

A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred.

The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government.

It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html

The Second Lancet Report
http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf

wikipedia summary of casualties
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties

Faces of the Fallen
"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
Skeeve
Wednesday, November 30, 2011

3705 days into the Afghanistan War. TEN YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?
3174 days into the Iraq War. EIGHT YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?

U.S. AND ALLIED MILITARY DEATHS IN AFGHANISTAN: 2820
http://icasualties.org/oef/
U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4483
U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 33183
http://www.michaelmoore.com

AFGHANISTANI CIVILIAN DEATHS:
(MINIMUM): 17611
(MAXIMUM): 37208
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...n_of_estimates

IRAQI DEATHS
(ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,455,590
(MINIMUM): 103,818
(MAXIMUM): 113,433
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html

COST OF THE WARS SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION):

AFGHANISTAN: $480,963,000,000
IRAQ: $805,542,000,000
TOTAL: $1,286,507,000,000
http://www.costofwar.com

Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.)

The First Lancet Report
http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf

Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000

By David Brown
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 11, 2006

A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred.

The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government.

It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html

The Second Lancet Report
http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf

wikipedia summary of casualties
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties

Faces of the Fallen
"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
Skeeve
Thurssday, December 1, 2011

3706 days into the Afghanistan War. TEN YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?
3175 days into the Iraq War. EIGHT YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?

U.S. AND ALLIED MILITARY DEATHS IN AFGHANISTAN: 2823
http://icasualties.org/oef/
U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4483
U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 33183
http://www.michaelmoore.com

AFGHANISTANI CIVILIAN DEATHS:
(MINIMUM): 17611
(MAXIMUM): 37208
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...n_of_estimates

IRAQI DEATHS
(ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,455,590
(MINIMUM): 103,854
(MAXIMUM): 113,471
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html

COST OF THE WARS SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION):

AFGHANISTAN: $481,324,000,000
IRAQ: $805,682,000,000
TOTAL: $1,287,007,000,000
http://www.costofwar.com

Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.)

The First Lancet Report
http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf

Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000

By David Brown
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 11, 2006

A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred.

The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government.

It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html

The Second Lancet Report
http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf

wikipedia summary of casualties
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties

Faces of the Fallen
"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
JohnH
When living in Oakland I hung out at a wine and beer bar on Piedmont Ave. Sometime about 6 years ago I got into a shouting match with a man who insisted we had to now invade Iraq. I pointed out that we had already extracted our blood revenge from the Afghans. He did not seem to understand the argument.

We are involved in 2 senseless wars that seem to have no end. I remain in that way ashamed to be an american. If you want to come to San Mateo you will know my house by the sign in my window.

"October 1967 Stop the draft week Oakland, why has my country forced me to resist imperial wars all my adult life."
 
Theory_Execution
Well do not look now, but the UK are positioning themselves for a war with Iran. Students attacked the UK embassy, so the UK government says the students were led by the Iranian government.

Why is it not widely accepted that when someone declares war or their support for one, they are immediately shot on the spot?
 
Skeeve
Saturday, December 3, 2011

3708 days into the Afghanistan War. TEN YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?
3177 days into the Iraq War. EIGHT YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?

U.S. AND ALLIED MILITARY DEATHS IN AFGHANISTAN: 2823
http://icasualties.org/oef/
U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4483
U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 33183
http://www.michaelmoore.com

AFGHANISTANI CIVILIAN DEATHS:
(MINIMUM): 17611
(MAXIMUM): 37208
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...n_of_estimates

IRAQI DEATHS
(ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,455,590
(MINIMUM): 103,874
(MAXIMUM): 113,493
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html

COST OF THE WARS SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION):

AFGHANISTAN: $481,629,000,000
IRAQ: $805,799,000,000
TOTAL: $1,287,428,000,000
http://www.costofwar.com

Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.)

The First Lancet Report
http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf

Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000

By David Brown
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 11, 2006

A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred.

The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government.

It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html

The Second Lancet Report
http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf

wikipedia summary of casualties
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties

Faces of the Fallen
"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
Skeeve
Sunday, December 4, 2011

3709 days into the Afghanistan War. TEN YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?
3178 days into the Iraq War. EIGHT YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?

U.S. AND ALLIED MILITARY DEATHS IN AFGHANISTAN: 2823
http://icasualties.org/oef/
U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4483
U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 33183
http://www.michaelmoore.com

AFGHANISTANI CIVILIAN DEATHS:
(MINIMUM): 17611
(MAXIMUM): 37208
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...n_of_estimates

IRAQI DEATHS
(ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,455,590
(MINIMUM): 103,89174
(MAXIMUM): 113,510
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html

COST OF THE WARS SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION):

AFGHANISTAN: $481,958,000,000
IRAQ: $805,928,000,000
TOTAL: $1,287,886,000,000
http://www.costofwar.com

Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.)

The First Lancet Report
http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf

Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000

By David Brown
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 11, 2006

A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred.

The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government.

It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html

The Second Lancet Report
http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf

wikipedia summary of casualties
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties

Faces of the Fallen
"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
Skeeve
Monday, December 5, 2011

3710 days into the Afghanistan War. TEN YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?
3179 days into the Iraq War. EIGHT YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?

U.S. AND ALLIED MILITARY DEATHS IN AFGHANISTAN: 2824
http://icasualties.org/oef/
U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4483
U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 33183
http://www.michaelmoore.com

AFGHANISTANI CIVILIAN DEATHS:
(MINIMUM): 17611
(MAXIMUM): 37208
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...n_of_estimates

IRAQI DEATHS
(ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,455,590
(MINIMUM): 104,047
(MAXIMUM): 113,393
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html

COST OF THE WARS SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION):

AFGHANISTAN: $483,327,000,000
IRAQ: $806,460,000,000
TOTAL: $1,289,787,000,000
http://www.costofwar.com

Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.)

The First Lancet Report
http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf

Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000

By David Brown
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 11, 2006

A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred.

The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government.

It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html

The Second Lancet Report
http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf

wikipedia summary of casualties
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties

Faces of the Fallen
"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
Skeeve
Monday, December 12, 2011

3717 days into the Afghanistan War. TEN YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?
3186 days into the Iraq War. EIGHT YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?

U.S. AND ALLIED MILITARY DEATHS IN AFGHANISTAN: 2825
http://icasualties.org/oef/
U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4483
U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 33183
http://www.michaelmoore.com

AFGHANISTANI CIVILIAN DEATHS:
(MINIMUM): 17611
(MAXIMUM): 37208
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...n_of_estimates

IRAQI DEATHS
(ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,455,590
(MINIMUM): 104,079
(MAXIMUM): 113,725
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html

COST OF THE WARS SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION):

AFGHANISTAN: $483,966,000,000
IRAQ: $806,708,000,000
TOTAL: $1,290,675,000,000
http://www.costofwar.com

Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.)

The First Lancet Report
http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf

Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000

By David Brown
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 11, 2006

A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred.

The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government.

It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html

The Second Lancet Report
http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf

wikipedia summary of casualties
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties

Faces of the Fallen
"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
Skeeve


Forum Admin Notice:
Title of thread has been changed from AFGHANISTAN/IRAQ BODY COUNT to AFGHANISTAN BODY COUNT in light of the combat troop withdrawal today.

"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
Skeeve
Monday, December 19, 2011

3724 days into the Afghanistan War. TEN YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?
3182 days into the Iraq War. EIGHT YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?*

(* It is the position of this thread that so long as the civil strife begun by this war continues, and 15,000 US personnel, many of them armed mercenaries, remain in Iraq, the war is not over.)

AFGHANISTANI CIVILIAN DEATHS:
(MINIMUM): 17,611
(MAXIMUM): 37,208
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...n_of_estimates

IRAQI DEATHS
(ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,455,590
(MINIMUM): 104,283
(MAXIMUM): 113,935
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html

U.S. AND ALLIED MILITARY DEATHS IN AFGHANISTAN: 2830
http://icasualties.org/oef/
U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4483
U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 33183
http://www.michaelmoore.com

COST OF THE WARS SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION):

AFGHANISTAN: $487,164,000,000
IRAQ: $807,951,000,000
TOTAL: $1,295,116,000,000
http://www.costofwar.com

Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.)

The First Lancet Report
http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf

Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000

By David Brown
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 11, 2006

A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred.

The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government.

It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html

The Second Lancet Report
http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf

wikipedia summary of casualties
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties

Faces of the Fallen
"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
seeker
Actually we are still in Afghanistan. we pulled out of Iraq but I think we are committed in Afghanistan until 2014
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana
 
Skeeve
Saturday, December 24, 2011

3729 days into the Afghanistan War. TEN YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?
3187 days into the Iraq War. EIGHT YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?*

(* It is the position of this thread that so long as the civil strife begun by this war continues, and 15,000 US personnel, many of them armed mercenaries, remain in Iraq, and the US is spending thousands of dollar an hour to support that force, the war is not over.)

AFGHANISTANI CIVILIAN DEATHS:
(MINIMUM): 17,611
(MAXIMUM): 37,208
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...n_of_estimates

IRAQI DEATHS
(ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,455,590
(MINIMUM): 104,383
(MAXIMUM): 114,041
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html

U.S. AND ALLIED MILITARY DEATHS IN AFGHANISTAN: 2839
http://icasualties.org/oef/
U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4483
U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 33183
http://www.michaelmoore.com

COST OF THE WARS SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION):

AFGHANISTAN: $486,288,000,000
IRAQ: $799,715,000,000
TOTAL: $1,286,004,000,000
http://www.costofwar.com

Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.)

The First Lancet Report
http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf

Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000

By David Brown
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 11, 2006

A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred.

The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government.

It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html

The Second Lancet Report
http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf

wikipedia summary of casualties
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties

Faces of the Fallen
"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
Skeeve
Sunday, January 1, 2011

3737 days into the Afghanistan War. TEN YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?
3195 days into the Iraq War. EIGHT YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?*

(* It is the position of this thread that so long as the civil strife begun by this war continues, and 15,000 US personnel, many of them armed mercenaries, remain in Iraq, and the US is spending thousands of dollar an hour to support that force, the war is not over.)

AFGHANISTANI CIVILIAN DEATHS:
(MINIMUM): 17,611
(MAXIMUM): 37,208
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...n_of_estimates

IRAQI DEATHS
(ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,455,590
(MINIMUM): 104,547
(MAXIMUM): 114,213
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html

U.S. AND ALLIED MILITARY DEATHS IN AFGHANISTAN: 2847
http://icasualties.org/oef/
U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4484
U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 33186
http://www.michaelmoore.com

COST OF THE WARS SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION):

AFGHANISTAN: $487,963,000,000
IRAQ: $799,867,000,000
TOTAL: $1,287,831,000,000
http://www.costofwar.com

Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.)

The First Lancet Report
http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf

Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000

By David Brown
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 11, 2006

A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred.

The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government.

It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html

The Second Lancet Report
http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf

wikipedia summary of casualties
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties

Faces of the Fallen
"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
Skeeve
Tuesday, January 10, 2011

3746 days into the Afghanistan War. TEN YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?
3205 days into the Iraq War. EIGHT YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?*

(* It is the position of this thread that so long as the civil strife begun by this war continues, and 15,000 US personnel, many of them armed mercenaries, remain in Iraq, and the US is spending thousands of dollar an hour to support that force, the war is not over.)

AFGHANISTANI CIVILIAN DEATHS:
(MINIMUM): 17,611
(MAXIMUM): 37,208
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...n_of_estimates

IRAQI DEATHS
(ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,455,590
(MINIMUM): 104,573
(MAXIMUM): 114,239
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html

U.S. AND ALLIED MILITARY DEATHS IN AFGHANISTAN: 2858
http://icasualties.org/oef/
U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4484
U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 33186
http://www.michaelmoore.com

COST OF THE WARS SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION):

AFGHANISTAN: $490,681,000,000
IRAQ: $800,116,000,000
TOTAL: $1,290,822,000,000
http://www.costofwar.com

Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.)

The First Lancet Report
http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf

Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000

By David Brown
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 11, 2006

A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred.

The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government.

It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html

The Second Lancet Report
http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf

wikipedia summary of casualties
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties

Faces of the Fallen
"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
JohnH
I wish this was Bastogne, one could be proud of our soldiers rather than being ashamed of how we have used them.

In an historical sense one can understand that 200 years ago we could consciously kill thousands of indigenous americans. Vile as that might be.

One should now, with better understanding of how people should live together, find this sort of behavior reprehensible.

Death to the need to kill others.
Edited by JohnH on 01/12/2012 12:01
 
Skeeve
Sunday, January 15, 2011

3751 days into the Afghanistan War. TEN YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?
3210 days into the Iraq War. EIGHT YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?*

(* It is the position of this thread that so long as the civil strife begun by this war continues, and 15,000 US personnel, many of them armed mercenaries, remain in Iraq, and the US is spending thousands of dollar an hour to support that force, the war is not over.)

AFGHANISTANI CIVILIAN DEATHS (THROUGH THE FIRST HALF OF 2011):
(MINIMUM): 17,611
(MAXIMUM): 37,208
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...n_of_estimates

IRAQI DEATHS
(ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,455,590
(MINIMUM): 104,687
(MAXIMUM): 114,353
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html

U.S. AND ALLIED MILITARY DEATHS IN AFGHANISTAN: 2860
http://icasualties.org/oef/
U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4484
U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 33186
http://www.michaelmoore.com

COST OF THE WARS SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION):

AFGHANISTAN: $492,152,000,000
IRAQ: $800,248,000,000
TOTAL: $1,292,399,000,000
http://www.costofwar.com

Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.)

The First Lancet Report
http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf

Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000

By David Brown
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 11, 2006

A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred.

The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government.

It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html

The Second Lancet Report
http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf

wikipedia summary of casualties
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties

Faces of the Fallen
"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
catman
Good point. I don't think the Iraq war is over yet either!
 
seeker
Your probably right, catman. Officially its over but I don't doubt that we'll have operatives there for a very long time.
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana
 
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