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| Skeeve |
Posted on 12/02/2011 22:11
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[Starting this thread with a repost of the first thread posted at Secular Cafe, then posting the latest thread in the second post. Posts will continue in support of Red Dave, thereafter] This thread will be continued, more or less daily, until the War in Iraq ends. People who are against the war are invited to join as sponsors. It began as a thread on IIDB. The sponsors already listed are from IIDB, RnR and TalkRational. It may take a day or so to get this thread adjusted to this website. Suggestions for improvement are welcome. Sunday, August 23, 2009 2175 days into the war. SIX YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER? U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4334 U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 31469 http://www.michaelmoore.com IRAQI DEATHS (ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,339,771 (MINIMUM): 92,856 (MAXIMUM): 101,346 http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html COST OF THE WAR SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION): $676,160,000,000 http://www.costofwar.com Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.) The First Lancet Report http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000 By David Brown Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, October 11, 2006 A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred. The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government. It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html The Second Lancet Report http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf wikipedia summary of casualties http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties Faces of the Fallen "The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
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| Skeeve |
Posted on 12/02/2011 22:12
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Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3704 days into the Afghanistan War. TEN YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER? 3173 days into the Iraq War. EIGHT YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER? U.S. AND ALLIED MILITARY DEATHS IN AFGHANISTAN: 2820 http://icasualties.org/oef/ U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4483 U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 33183 http://www.michaelmoore.com AFGHANISTANI CIVILIAN DEATHS: (MINIMUM): 17611 (MAXIMUM): 37208 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...n_of_estimates IRAQI DEATHS (ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,455,590 (MINIMUM): 103,775 (MAXIMUM): 113,380 http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html COST OF THE WARS SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION): AFGHANISTAN: $480,295,000,000 IRAQ: $805,282,000,000 TOTAL: $1,285,577,000,000 http://www.costofwar.com Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.) The First Lancet Report http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000 By David Brown Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, October 11, 2006 A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred. The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government. It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html The Second Lancet Report http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf wikipedia summary of casualties http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties Faces of the Fallen "The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
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| Skeeve |
Posted on 12/03/2011 09:41
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Wednesday, November 30, 2011 3705 days into the Afghanistan War. TEN YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER? 3174 days into the Iraq War. EIGHT YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER? U.S. AND ALLIED MILITARY DEATHS IN AFGHANISTAN: 2820 http://icasualties.org/oef/ U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4483 U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 33183 http://www.michaelmoore.com AFGHANISTANI CIVILIAN DEATHS: (MINIMUM): 17611 (MAXIMUM): 37208 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...n_of_estimates IRAQI DEATHS (ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,455,590 (MINIMUM): 103,818 (MAXIMUM): 113,433 http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html COST OF THE WARS SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION): AFGHANISTAN: $480,963,000,000 IRAQ: $805,542,000,000 TOTAL: $1,286,507,000,000 http://www.costofwar.com Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.) The First Lancet Report http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000 By David Brown Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, October 11, 2006 A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred. The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government. It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html The Second Lancet Report http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf wikipedia summary of casualties http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties Faces of the Fallen "The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
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| Skeeve |
Posted on 12/04/2011 09:51
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Thurssday, December 1, 2011 3706 days into the Afghanistan War. TEN YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER? 3175 days into the Iraq War. EIGHT YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER? U.S. AND ALLIED MILITARY DEATHS IN AFGHANISTAN: 2823 http://icasualties.org/oef/ U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4483 U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 33183 http://www.michaelmoore.com AFGHANISTANI CIVILIAN DEATHS: (MINIMUM): 17611 (MAXIMUM): 37208 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...n_of_estimates IRAQI DEATHS (ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,455,590 (MINIMUM): 103,854 (MAXIMUM): 113,471 http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html COST OF THE WARS SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION): AFGHANISTAN: $481,324,000,000 IRAQ: $805,682,000,000 TOTAL: $1,287,007,000,000 http://www.costofwar.com Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.) The First Lancet Report http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000 By David Brown Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, October 11, 2006 A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred. The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government. It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html The Second Lancet Report http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf wikipedia summary of casualties http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties Faces of the Fallen "The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
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| JohnH |
Posted on 12/05/2011 16:37
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When living in Oakland I hung out at a wine and beer bar on Piedmont Ave. Sometime about 6 years ago I got into a shouting match with a man who insisted we had to now invade Iraq. I pointed out that we had already extracted our blood revenge from the Afghans. He did not seem to understand the argument. We are involved in 2 senseless wars that seem to have no end. I remain in that way ashamed to be an american. If you want to come to San Mateo you will know my house by the sign in my window. "October 1967 Stop the draft week Oakland, why has my country forced me to resist imperial wars all my adult life." |
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| Theory_Execution |
Posted on 12/05/2011 18:09
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Well do not look now, but the UK are positioning themselves for a war with Iran. Students attacked the UK embassy, so the UK government says the students were led by the Iranian government. Why is it not widely accepted that when someone declares war or their support for one, they are immediately shot on the spot? |
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| Skeeve |
Posted on 12/05/2011 22:54
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Saturday, December 3, 2011 3708 days into the Afghanistan War. TEN YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER? 3177 days into the Iraq War. EIGHT YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER? U.S. AND ALLIED MILITARY DEATHS IN AFGHANISTAN: 2823 http://icasualties.org/oef/ U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4483 U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 33183 http://www.michaelmoore.com AFGHANISTANI CIVILIAN DEATHS: (MINIMUM): 17611 (MAXIMUM): 37208 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...n_of_estimates IRAQI DEATHS (ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,455,590 (MINIMUM): 103,874 (MAXIMUM): 113,493 http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html COST OF THE WARS SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION): AFGHANISTAN: $481,629,000,000 IRAQ: $805,799,000,000 TOTAL: $1,287,428,000,000 http://www.costofwar.com Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.) The First Lancet Report http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000 By David Brown Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, October 11, 2006 A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred. The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government. It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html The Second Lancet Report http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf wikipedia summary of casualties http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties Faces of the Fallen "The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
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| Skeeve |
Posted on 12/07/2011 11:13
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Sunday, December 4, 2011 3709 days into the Afghanistan War. TEN YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER? 3178 days into the Iraq War. EIGHT YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER? U.S. AND ALLIED MILITARY DEATHS IN AFGHANISTAN: 2823 http://icasualties.org/oef/ U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4483 U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 33183 http://www.michaelmoore.com AFGHANISTANI CIVILIAN DEATHS: (MINIMUM): 17611 (MAXIMUM): 37208 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...n_of_estimates IRAQI DEATHS (ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,455,590 (MINIMUM): 103,89174 (MAXIMUM): 113,510 http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html COST OF THE WARS SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION): AFGHANISTAN: $481,958,000,000 IRAQ: $805,928,000,000 TOTAL: $1,287,886,000,000 http://www.costofwar.com Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.) The First Lancet Report http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000 By David Brown Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, October 11, 2006 A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred. The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government. It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html The Second Lancet Report http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf wikipedia summary of casualties http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties Faces of the Fallen "The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
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| Skeeve |
Posted on 12/10/2011 11:32
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Monday, December 5, 2011 3710 days into the Afghanistan War. TEN YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER? 3179 days into the Iraq War. EIGHT YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER? U.S. AND ALLIED MILITARY DEATHS IN AFGHANISTAN: 2824 http://icasualties.org/oef/ U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4483 U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 33183 http://www.michaelmoore.com AFGHANISTANI CIVILIAN DEATHS: (MINIMUM): 17611 (MAXIMUM): 37208 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...n_of_estimates IRAQI DEATHS (ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,455,590 (MINIMUM): 104,047 (MAXIMUM): 113,393 http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html COST OF THE WARS SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION): AFGHANISTAN: $483,327,000,000 IRAQ: $806,460,000,000 TOTAL: $1,289,787,000,000 http://www.costofwar.com Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.) The First Lancet Report http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000 By David Brown Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, October 11, 2006 A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred. The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government. It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html The Second Lancet Report http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf wikipedia summary of casualties http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties Faces of the Fallen "The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
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| Skeeve |
Posted on 12/12/2011 09:31
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Monday, December 12, 2011 3717 days into the Afghanistan War. TEN YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER? 3186 days into the Iraq War. EIGHT YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER? U.S. AND ALLIED MILITARY DEATHS IN AFGHANISTAN: 2825 http://icasualties.org/oef/ U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4483 U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 33183 http://www.michaelmoore.com AFGHANISTANI CIVILIAN DEATHS: (MINIMUM): 17611 (MAXIMUM): 37208 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...n_of_estimates IRAQI DEATHS (ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,455,590 (MINIMUM): 104,079 (MAXIMUM): 113,725 http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html COST OF THE WARS SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION): AFGHANISTAN: $483,966,000,000 IRAQ: $806,708,000,000 TOTAL: $1,290,675,000,000 http://www.costofwar.com Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.) The First Lancet Report http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000 By David Brown Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, October 11, 2006 A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred. The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government. It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html The Second Lancet Report http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf wikipedia summary of casualties http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties Faces of the Fallen "The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
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Posted on 12/15/2011 10:02
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"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
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Posted on 12/21/2011 22:25
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Monday, December 19, 2011 3724 days into the Afghanistan War. TEN YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER? 3182 days into the Iraq War. EIGHT YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?* (* It is the position of this thread that so long as the civil strife begun by this war continues, and 15,000 US personnel, many of them armed mercenaries, remain in Iraq, the war is not over.) AFGHANISTANI CIVILIAN DEATHS: (MINIMUM): 17,611 (MAXIMUM): 37,208 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...n_of_estimates IRAQI DEATHS (ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,455,590 (MINIMUM): 104,283 (MAXIMUM): 113,935 http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html U.S. AND ALLIED MILITARY DEATHS IN AFGHANISTAN: 2830 http://icasualties.org/oef/ U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4483 U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 33183 http://www.michaelmoore.com COST OF THE WARS SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION): AFGHANISTAN: $487,164,000,000 IRAQ: $807,951,000,000 TOTAL: $1,295,116,000,000 http://www.costofwar.com Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.) The First Lancet Report http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000 By David Brown Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, October 11, 2006 A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred. The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government. It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html The Second Lancet Report http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf wikipedia summary of casualties http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties Faces of the Fallen "The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
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| seeker |
Posted on 12/22/2011 11:01
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Actually we are still in Afghanistan. we pulled out of Iraq but I think we are committed in Afghanistan until 2014
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana
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Posted on 12/27/2011 08:55
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Saturday, December 24, 2011 3729 days into the Afghanistan War. TEN YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER? 3187 days into the Iraq War. EIGHT YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?* (* It is the position of this thread that so long as the civil strife begun by this war continues, and 15,000 US personnel, many of them armed mercenaries, remain in Iraq, and the US is spending thousands of dollar an hour to support that force, the war is not over.) AFGHANISTANI CIVILIAN DEATHS: (MINIMUM): 17,611 (MAXIMUM): 37,208 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...n_of_estimates IRAQI DEATHS (ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,455,590 (MINIMUM): 104,383 (MAXIMUM): 114,041 http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html U.S. AND ALLIED MILITARY DEATHS IN AFGHANISTAN: 2839 http://icasualties.org/oef/ U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4483 U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 33183 http://www.michaelmoore.com COST OF THE WARS SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION): AFGHANISTAN: $486,288,000,000 IRAQ: $799,715,000,000 TOTAL: $1,286,004,000,000 http://www.costofwar.com Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.) The First Lancet Report http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000 By David Brown Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, October 11, 2006 A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred. The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government. It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html The Second Lancet Report http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf wikipedia summary of casualties http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties Faces of the Fallen "The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
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Posted on 01/01/2012 19:42
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Sunday, January 1, 2011 3737 days into the Afghanistan War. TEN YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER? 3195 days into the Iraq War. EIGHT YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?* (* It is the position of this thread that so long as the civil strife begun by this war continues, and 15,000 US personnel, many of them armed mercenaries, remain in Iraq, and the US is spending thousands of dollar an hour to support that force, the war is not over.) AFGHANISTANI CIVILIAN DEATHS: (MINIMUM): 17,611 (MAXIMUM): 37,208 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...n_of_estimates IRAQI DEATHS (ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,455,590 (MINIMUM): 104,547 (MAXIMUM): 114,213 http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html U.S. AND ALLIED MILITARY DEATHS IN AFGHANISTAN: 2847 http://icasualties.org/oef/ U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4484 U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 33186 http://www.michaelmoore.com COST OF THE WARS SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION): AFGHANISTAN: $487,963,000,000 IRAQ: $799,867,000,000 TOTAL: $1,287,831,000,000 http://www.costofwar.com Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.) The First Lancet Report http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000 By David Brown Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, October 11, 2006 A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred. The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government. It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html The Second Lancet Report http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf wikipedia summary of casualties http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties Faces of the Fallen "The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
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| Skeeve |
Posted on 01/10/2012 21:08
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Tuesday, January 10, 2011 3746 days into the Afghanistan War. TEN YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER? 3205 days into the Iraq War. EIGHT YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?* (* It is the position of this thread that so long as the civil strife begun by this war continues, and 15,000 US personnel, many of them armed mercenaries, remain in Iraq, and the US is spending thousands of dollar an hour to support that force, the war is not over.) AFGHANISTANI CIVILIAN DEATHS: (MINIMUM): 17,611 (MAXIMUM): 37,208 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...n_of_estimates IRAQI DEATHS (ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,455,590 (MINIMUM): 104,573 (MAXIMUM): 114,239 http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html U.S. AND ALLIED MILITARY DEATHS IN AFGHANISTAN: 2858 http://icasualties.org/oef/ U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4484 U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 33186 http://www.michaelmoore.com COST OF THE WARS SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION): AFGHANISTAN: $490,681,000,000 IRAQ: $800,116,000,000 TOTAL: $1,290,822,000,000 http://www.costofwar.com Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.) The First Lancet Report http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000 By David Brown Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, October 11, 2006 A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred. The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government. It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html The Second Lancet Report http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf wikipedia summary of casualties http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties Faces of the Fallen "The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
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| JohnH |
Posted on 01/11/2012 00:06
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I wish this was Bastogne, one could be proud of our soldiers rather than being ashamed of how we have used them. In an historical sense one can understand that 200 years ago we could consciously kill thousands of indigenous americans. Vile as that might be. One should now, with better understanding of how people should live together, find this sort of behavior reprehensible. Death to the need to kill others. Edited by JohnH on 01/12/2012 12:01 |
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| Skeeve |
Posted on 01/15/2012 17:53
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Sunday, January 15, 2011 3751 days into the Afghanistan War. TEN YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER? 3210 days into the Iraq War. EIGHT YEARS NOW. HOW MUCH LONGER?* (* It is the position of this thread that so long as the civil strife begun by this war continues, and 15,000 US personnel, many of them armed mercenaries, remain in Iraq, and the US is spending thousands of dollar an hour to support that force, the war is not over.) AFGHANISTANI CIVILIAN DEATHS (THROUGH THE FIRST HALF OF 2011): (MINIMUM): 17,611 (MAXIMUM): 37,208 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilia...n_of_estimates IRAQI DEATHS (ANTIWAR.COM ESTIMATE): 1,455,590 (MINIMUM): 104,687 (MAXIMUM): 114,353 http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html U.S. AND ALLIED MILITARY DEATHS IN AFGHANISTAN: 2860 http://icasualties.org/oef/ U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 4484 U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 33186 http://www.michaelmoore.com COST OF THE WARS SO FAR (ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST MILLION): AFGHANISTAN: $492,152,000,000 IRAQ: $800,248,000,000 TOTAL: $1,292,399,000,000 http://www.costofwar.com Please note that the above figures, from the IBC website, are NOT estimates of total Iraqi civilians killed as a result of the US invasion and its aftermath. Rather, they are a count of Western-reported verifiable violent deaths, and likely to be a small percentage of the true figure. Les Roberts, author of the Lancet Report, believes the actual number may now be as high as 300,000. (Thanks to Raztafarian for the above information.) The First Lancet Report http://www.thelancet.com/webfiles/im...3606694919.pdf Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000 By David Brown Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, October 11, 2006 A team of American and Iraqi epidemiologists estimates that 655,000 more people have died in Iraq since coalition forces arrived in March 2003 than would have died if the invasion had not occurred. The estimate, produced by interviewing residents during a random sampling of households throughout the country, is far higher than ones produced by other groups, including Iraq's government. It is more than 20 times the estimate of 30,000 civilian deaths that President Bush gave in a speech in December. It is more than 10 times the estimate of roughly 50,000 civilian deaths made by the British-based Iraq Body Count research group. (Thanx again to Raztafarian)[/b] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...001442_pf.html The Second Lancet Report http://web.mit.edu/CIS/pdf/Human_Cost_of_War.pdf wikipedia summary of casualties http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_war_casualties Faces of the Fallen "The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
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| catman |
Posted on 01/16/2012 02:52
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Good point. I don't think the Iraq war is over yet either! | ||
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| seeker |
Posted on 01/16/2012 11:49
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Your probably right, catman. Officially its over but I don't doubt that we'll have operatives there for a very long time.
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana
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