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catman
Anything with Dick is too obvious IMO. I saw an anniversary announcement in the newspaper awhile back in which the woman's real name was Ima Strain. From the looks of her husband, it was appropriate.
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
derF
Yeah it's pretty easy to be really rude on the internet because you are just a virtual person and all anyone can do is virtually beat the virtual crap out of you.
I'll drink to that. Or anything else for that matter.
 
cheshiredragon
True dat. Dick Hertz is obvious but a real name none-the-less so it works. My mother knew a lady growing up who's name was Ima and she married a guy with the last name of Pig.

derF wrote:
Yeah it's pretty easy to be really rude on the internet because you are just a virtual person and all anyone can do is virtually beat the virtual crap out of you.


Not unless you REALLY know how to beat the virtual crap out of them :evil grin:
Edited by cheshiredragon on 10/31/2008 23:07
That's right, I said it...
 
derF
Better be careful what I say around CD I guess.Shock
I'll drink to that. Or anything else for that matter.
 
catman
Good idea. He can render your computer into a smoking pile of crap in an instant. In my case, it wouldn't be that much of a change. (Sorry, almighty computer, I didn't mean it.)
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
cheshiredragon
exactly! speaking of which, I found some interesting info on you.

Download source  Code
Interesting ports on adsl-xx-xx-128-250.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net (xx.xx.128.250):
Not shown: 1696 closed ports
PORT    STATE    SERVICE
445/tcp filtered microsoft-ds
Device type: WAP|general purpose
Running: 2Wire embedded





Your system is well blocked catman. To the average Joe ;) anyway. No worries, there is no information in the code box that can reveal you as an individual. :)
That's right, I said it...
 
catman
That's good news. Now, if I can figure out what to do about the warning which pops up from time to time: "Exception Processing Message c0000013 Parameters 75b6bf9c 4 75b6bf9c 75b6bf9c", I'll be a happy boy! I have 3 Windows disks which came with my computer, if that helps any.
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
derF
Your system is well blocked catman. To the average Joe Wink anyway. No worries, there is no information in the code box that can reveal you as an individual.


And I had been so hopeful that someone on this site would be able to reveal to us all that Catman was, indeed, an individual. (sigh)
I'll drink to that. Or anything else for that matter.
 
catman
Hahaha!Grin Good one, derF.Wink
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
cheshiredragon
derF wrote:
Your system is well blocked catman. To the average Joe Wink anyway. No worries, there is no information in the code box that can reveal you as an individual.


And I had been so hopeful that someone on this site would be able to reveal to us all that Catman was, indeed, an individual. (sigh)


It is called security, derF.
That's right, I said it...
 
neilmarr
I flatly refuse to laugh at the unfortunate names some brides are stuck with until I hear of a sweet wee girl called Hansneesan marrying a man called Bumpsadaisy. Neil
 
cheshiredragon
That is a good one neil, HAHAHA
That's right, I said it...
 
comfortable
Thanks for your thoughtful reply, Bob.

What follows is an honest point of view, and no disrespect or sarcasm is intended - ask JV, he knows I don't indulge in petty disagreements.

I accept that you have your view, and that you share it with many other educated people. The point is moot at this point, and I'm not trying to "win" an argument - merely to explain why I'm not convinced. If you'll indulge me....

Although constitutional scholars may have opinions on this situation, in my ignorance I merely point out that the Constitution itself does not address it, Norman Redlich's opinion notwithstanding. I am quite old enough to have read consitution-based opinions on slavery, women's suffrage, separate drinking fountains for blacks, and so forth - as accepted by "most Universities" contemporaneously, so perhaps I lack proper reverence for authority, as well as formal education.

I will be voting for Obama, but that is incidental. It's not the man, per se, but a different administration I am looking for. Almost any "front man"-in-chief will be acceptable.

My last word on Obama's citizenship would be to wonder aloud why all the clever and well-funded people in the Hillary camp were unable to get any traction with the notion.

New Subject:
If you wonder why I'm voting for Obama, here is a recent snipped of an email I sent to JV this afternoon.

I predict that an Obama administration will put taxes back where they were under Clinton a.s.a.p.

The "plan" to cut taxes for those under $250K may or may not pass congress (50-50, my prediction).

I think that we are closer than we want to believe to Roosevelt's situation in 1933.
Another WPA is not out of the question here. I'm not so sure that's a bad idea.

We're already semi-nationalizing private banks and financial institutions (AIG anyone?)

Let's see where the financial meltdown leaves us. Right now, my 401(k) and home equity cannot suffer more than they already have. Clinton was a bit of a clown at a personal level, but I thought he acquitted himself well in Bosnia and the national debt, etc. seemed to improve over his tenure. Job creation was over 6x that of Dubya.



As far as foreign policy goes..... I don't believe in "democracy at the point of a gun", and resent lies. I resented LBJ lying to me about the Vietnam war, I resented the Truman "domino theory" Doctrine, widely touted as rationale during the "Vietnam War", and obviously disproven thereby, and I resent the (fight them over there or have to fight them over here, give us a blank check) "Bush doctrine" as well.

There are more players in the "free world" than just the U.S.A.

If our entire way of life is threatened, I have no doubt that France, Germany, and the rest of the First World will step up to the plate to save it, not to mention the up-and-coming Chinese government. There are many players with a huge stake in the outcome of a middle-east holy war. In the meantime, there are many players all too happy to see the USA lead with its chin.

Installing democracy is/was a lie (not the "reason" we went to war)
Getting rid of dictators - ditto (there's many we still actively support)
Preserving an economic way of life for our vested interests? Now that's closer to the truth..... There's a case to be made for that.....A little more honesty and a lot less arrogance and hubris and I might be convinced - but Bush was not a believable liar.

Any job worth doing, is worth doing well. Bush and friends were given all the funding they asked for in Iraq.
What did they do with it?
Where are we today with Iraq and Afghanistan?

Let's let someone else try.

Thanks again, Bob! I truly appreciate your having spent the time to explain. I also respect those that submit rational discussion for argument, particularly with references. You have won my admiration on that score.

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-----Original Message-----
From: J
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 9:31 AM
To: F
Cc: D
Subject: FW: No need to repatriate.

From Bob
Edited by comfortable on 11/02/2008 16:54
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The fewer the facts, the stronger the opinion.
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Men are sheep in credulity, but wolves for conformity.
 
Skeeve
Ok, I understand comfortable's post, but I can't help but feel that it was misplaced maybe?

I haven't looked around to see a similar thread, but there has to be one. Wink

Regarding Obama's citizenship...I seriously doubt he would be where he is today if he hadn't already been thoroughly vetted for the job. I call sour grapes on the Clinton supporting lawyer.

"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
comfortable
Wellllll... I saw that the thread was a poll about which way we're gonna vote (a check on the 'diversity' of our members)

I thought pasting my recent email exchanges would be a good way of showing which way I was voting, and why (as well as showing how some people come off the rails when they are against a candidate.)

Anyhow, I removed lots of the extra line breaks just now.

Some friends email me cartoons of Gen. Powell hugging Castro, Amedinijad, and Chavez, over the title "Traitor"....

It seems that this election has sent many intellects into a coma, leaving only the raw limbic system to animate the voting carcass. Unable to think or discuss, they can only call names..... Sadly, this is probably normal for sheeple...(* sigh *)
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The fewer the facts, the stronger the opinion.
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Men are sheep in credulity, but wolves for conformity.
 
Skeeve
I can't count the number of times I heard Obama called "a socialist" this week alone. From people I had previous thought were nominally intelligent.

Fox and Rush are doing a great job! Sad
"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
derF
It's down and dirty time now, Skeeve. Any statement or adds made in the last 72 hours of this campaign should be steadfastly ignored.
I'll drink to that. Or anything else for that matter.
 
comfortable
derF wrote:
A theist and Atheist walk into a bar.......They promptly get into a fight in which the atheist thoroughly kicks the theists ass. The theist prays to his god for help and upon stepping out of the bar the Atheist has a small dog pee on his shoe.

Who's dog was it? Who's shoe got wet?
I want to laugh, but I'm still confused, derF.
Grin
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The fewer the facts, the stronger the opinion.
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Men are sheep in credulity, but wolves for conformity.
 
derF
comfortable wrote:
derF wrote:
A theist and Atheist walk into a bar.......They promptly get into a fight in which the atheist thoroughly kicks the theists ass. The theist prays to his god for help and upon stepping out of the bar the Atheist has a small dog pee on his shoe.

Who's dog was it? (Gods) Who's shoe got wet? (The atheist, apparently that was the best the theists god to do on short notice.)
I want to laugh, but I'm still confused, derF.
Grin


The mark of a crappy joke is one that requires explanation.
I'll drink to that. Or anything else for that matter.
 
catman
The aforementioned bottom-feeder Senator Cornyn from Texas is running an ad that accuses his opponent of belonging to the party which wants to raise taxes, even though CBS national news hired an accountant to compare McCain's and Obama's tax plans [this sentence is already too long]. The comparison showed that families making $200K or less per year would pay lower taxes.
Not only that, but Obama's spending plan would be easier on the national deficit.

derF: That is quite true. It's happened to me before. The "I don't get it" response usually indicates failure.

"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
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