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Two videos pretty good case for Atheism
Bob of QF
Part 1 of 2:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq9BaG1MJsg&feature=related[/url]

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq9BaG1MJsg[/video]
Part 2 of 2:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBZdY70aJnQ&feature=related[/url]

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBZdY70aJnQ[/video]

*edited youtube links
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Reality is that which is left, after you stop believing.
 
derF
Yeah, those two had sensible down to earth arguments and in that vain I offer this video link of a religious sect that are ultra believers.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsfVw9xxoNY[/url]
I'll drink to that. Or anything else for that matter.
 
neilmarr
Thanks, Bob. Don't you think, though, that promoting atheism per se means using the tedious pulpit tactic of repetition? There's only so much to be said and a limited number of ways to say it.

Two admiable chaps like this are largely preaching to the choir or their words are falling on the deaf ears of hard-line theists who've also heard it all before.

Once you've got the hang of atheism, it's time to move on from talks like this and learn as much as you can of what freedom from religion allows you to.

On the other hand, in the unlikely event that the less passionate religionist or agnostic might just choose to tune in and subsequently be persuaded by the very basic atheistic reasoning on offer, broadcasts like this are valuable.

Cheers. Neil
 
neilmarr
Brilliant, Derf. Give 'em their due, though; wasn't it Dawkins who said: "At least I don't lie awake at night worrying about being blown up by the Amish"?
 
derF
neilmarr wrote:
Brilliant, Derf. Give 'em their due, though; wasn't it Dawkins who said: "At least I don't lie awake at night worrying about being blown up by the Amish"?


You got that right, Neil. There are some religions that we don't have to worry about and there are others that are big problems these days. Oh, oh. I think I just set myself up again, Neil.

Cheers.
I'll drink to that. Or anything else for that matter.
 
Sinny
one other good point they brought up was that the bible says: I will punish you but I will pay for your sins.

This again makes no sense. The christians say all who don't worship, believe will burn in hell fire but then they say the jesus died for everyone's sins. Well if the jesus died for everyone's sins and wiped the slate clean then why do they still believe in a hell. Why have to believe in a resurrected jesus to have that supposed forgiveness when they claim they believe the jesus died for all.

There must have been a lot of doubters back then saying something like 'well I never saw this god so why should I believe this Rabbi' so someone came up with the idea of an instant new religion. You never saw the god but you see the jesus and we claim he was raised from the dead. Well that worked for some back then but it doesn't apply now. We never saw the jesus much less saw a resurrection of this jesus. Add that to what I said above and it still doesn't make any sense about what they call saved. I don' t know if I'm explain what I'm trying to say right...I can't figure out a better way to say it, yet.

LOL satan and god in kohootz LOL. Yeah I think that's how it reads too, actually even more like they are both the same like Jekyll and Hyde split personality type.

IMO these videos are a very good source for the younger generation, which needs to see these videos, to learn how, what to question without fear of punishment from their parents. These two men put it kind of delicately without really insulting the theist. That's important for younger people to do with their parents. If they put in question form rather than an attitude way then the parents are more likely, though not absolutely, to feel threatened or rebelled against by their children.
 
Sinny
Derf that was funny. I enjoyed watching that. Smile

Was that Florence Henderson in the beginning? It sure looked like her. The woman who played the Mother on the Brady Bunch. The Amish aren't a problem for us or other religions either but I think they are tough on their children and force the young girls to marry who they choose for them. Or am I getting them mixed up with another religion
 
derF
Yes that was Florence Henderson.
I'll drink to that. Or anything else for that matter.
 
Bob of QF
derF wrote:
Yeah, those two had sensible down to earth arguments and in that vain I offer this video link of a religious sect that are ultra believers.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsfVw9xxoNY[/url]


LOL! Well, I finally got around to clicking on that and watching.

Classic Weird Al.

BTW, the next-to-last scene, where everything in the picture is moving backwards, except Weird Al was actually filmed in the usual way, but Al was the one moving backwards. He had to practice saying the words in reverse, to sync his lips with the song.... he sortof slips up on the very last two words. (no special effects...okay, it's an old school video).

On a Weird Al special, where he showed this one, he was asked if he was worried about offending the Amish.

His reply? How are they possibly going to know?
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Reality is that which is left, after you stop believing.
 
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