View Thread

Atheists Today » Easy Reading » The Rant Room
Who is here? 1 guest(s)
 Print Thread
CHRISTMAS -- and other jingle balls
neilmarr
Sorry to be a wet blanket ... but it's that depressing time of year again when we're bombarded from all points by sickly Christian nonsense and expected to (literally) buy into it. Just thought we'd need a thread for moans, groans and fury and anything else Xmas-related.

Here's an opener from me to show that jolly old Santa's really the sinister, all-seeing, all-knowing omnipresent god of Christianity, Judaism and Islam in disguise. It's from the 'harmless' Santa Claus is Coming to Town ...

You better watch out,
You better not cry,
You better not pout,
I'm telling you why:

Santa Claus is coming to town!

He's making a list,
He's checking it twice,
He's gonna find out
who's naughty or nice.

Santa Claus is coming to town!

He sees you when you're sleeping,
He knows when you're awake.
He knows when you've been bad or good,
So be good for goodness sake!


See what I mean? Again it's blatant reward and punishment thought-policing. Scary, eh? Neil
 
Hypatia
Groan... moan...

I'm with you on the hullabaloo of xmas Neil. I detest the religiousness and commercialness of it, all shoved down our throats, beginning earlier and earlier each year.

I particularly like Rayven's expression of 'giftmas', and for my husband and I we very much create this howliday each year with our family - including the furry ones - to suit our godless lives.

Very little, if any, of what we do for this time of year (with the exception of feasting, perhaps) involves what xtians and retailers have come to tell us is 'tradition' and 'the way' it's done. Pure joy!
 
Doubting Thomas
Of the two, I'd find it easier to believe in Santa than God. At least you know what he looks like, and he's always jolly compared to the bipolar God who smites entire civilizations because he's having a bad day. The worst you ever get from Santa is a lump of coal.

I, too, hate the way the Christmas season starts earlier & earlier every freakin' year. Here in my town, the city put their Christmas decorations up on the poles on Halloween day. One year, there was a radio station that played nonstop Christmas music the day after Halloween. And in the local stores, Christmas items go on sale the day after they get rid of all the back-to-school stuff. Next thing you know, they'll be putting Christmas items on sale on July 5th.

Personally, I think the Christmas season shouldn't start until the day after Thanksgiving. But as it is now, the official Christmas season is from Nov. 1 to about mid-January.
Edited by Doubting Thomas on 11/19/2008 11:27
You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me and not you.
 
seeker
If you look at the history of Santa Claus he wasn't always that jolly. The old story is that he would haul naughty kids off to Spain and beat them. In the medieval era he gets a helper called 'Black Pete' who does the torturing for him. Its really a pretty nasty legend when you dig into it.
 
catman
Neil: Santa Claus in God. He's aware of what everyone does all the time.Wink

I started hearing Xmas commercials just before Halloween. I agree with DT that the Xmas season shouldn't start until after Thanksgiving. I also like the 'Giftmas' designation.
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
Nails3Jesus0
seeker wrote:
If you look at the history of Santa Claus he wasn't always that jolly. The old story is that he would haul naughty kids off to Spain and beat them. In the medieval era he gets a helper called 'Black Pete' who does the torturing for him. Its really a pretty nasty legend when you dig into it.


Spain?? Isn't that like St. Nick here threatening to take bad children to Grand Cayman, or something? Spain, the land of sangria, paella and warm meditearainian topless beaches... sounds like hell.
Thanks for the link seeker, fun stuff.
 
seeker
Back then nobody liked Spaniards.
 
RayvenAlandria
Most fairy tales started out as abusive stories full of threats. They were designed to traumatize and abuse children into obeying without question. I once looked up some of the origins and I was appalled.

Yep, even elves. In the beginning the stories of elves were of evil creatures who kidnapped infants and drank their blood and/or murdered them. My suspicion is that many such stories were created to explain away the murder of a child. The parents could claim evil elves kidnapped and murdered the child and they'd get sympathy instead of what they really deserved.
 
Doubting Thomas
I'm not really looking forward to the "war on Christmas" season again. Apparently there's a Christian group so-called the Liberty Council who has rated various corporations on whether or not they should be boycotted by whether or not they use the term "Christmas" or the more-inclusive "holiday."

http://friendlyat...-foe-2008/

My mother-in-law really buys into the whole "war on Christmas" bullshit, but what can I expect? She watches Fox News every day so she'll know what to think. Last year she saw our Christmas cards which had the benign "Happy Holidays" and asked my wife "What the hell is the deal with that?" I can't wait to send her another non-holiday-specific card this year. If it were up to me, I wouldn't send out any cards, but since I feel obligated, I'll send out the general holiday cards.
You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me and not you.
 
Skeeve
I like the phrase from the 'Atheists reach out' story I posted on the front page.

Reason Greetings!
Edited by Skeeve on 11/20/2008 07:18
"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
willie
I love christmas. I'm not keen on the commercialism, but just about everything else holds so many happy memories, from well sung carols to Slade, from decorating the tree to playing board games after a big ol' dinner.

And I normally baulk at anything that even hints of tradition.
 
Hypatia
I really like the 'Reason's Greetings' too. Maybe I'll use that on some of my home-made cards.

Heh heh.



 
comfortable
seeker wrote:
If you look at the history of Santa Claus he wasn't always that jolly. The old story is that he would haul naughty kids off to Spain and beat them. In the medieval era he gets a helper called 'Black Pete' who does the torturing for him. Its really a pretty nasty legend when you dig into it.

Well, so is the Christian church (all 447 of them). They like to prattle on about humility and peace, while their history is rife with behaviors and attitudes that pretty-much exemplifies values antithetical to the hype.

(I came around for the holiday, looking for fundies trying to convert us. Any around?)
Smile
.
The fewer the facts, the stronger the opinion.
.
Men are sheep in credulity, but wolves for conformity.
 
Doubting Thomas
Haven't seen any, just wait until savior-on-a-stick season.
You're just jealous because the voices are talking to me and not you.
 
jayon
Hypatia wrote:
I really like the 'Reason's Greetings' too. Maybe I'll use that on some of my home-made cards.

Heh heh.





Oh, are we making holiday sayings? How about "It's reason for the season" (instead of "it's the reason for the season" )? lol, I just realized that ") set's off a smiley because of the quote being changed to html code. Hmm, maybe the smileys should go before the bbcode...
Edited by jayon on 12/24/2008 20:58
 
catman
I've been telling people that the reason for the season is that the earth is tilted on its axis and the days are short.
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
Bob of QF
catman wrote:
I've been telling people that the reason for the season is that the earth is tilted on its axis and the days are short.


I like to say, it's because people are often cooped up in the dark (like a mushroom) for far too long, and need to let off some steam...

So, go smoke some mushrooms or satuee some or stew'em or somethin'

'Shrooms, man.
Quantum Junction: Use both lanes

Reality is that which is left, after you stop believing.
 
catman
Haven't had any "shrooms" (psilocybin?) since the early 70s. I'll take your comment as a compliment.Wink

"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
Jump to Forum:

Similar Threads

Thread Forum Replies Last Post
The Meaning of Christmas Funny Zone 2 12/20/2011 14:31
Getting it wrong. "War on Christmas" needs better PR. Christianity 3 11/30/2011 13:26
Only two shoplifting days until christmas Christianity 20 12/30/2009 18:17
'Merry Christmas' got me FIRED!!! The Lounge 17 12/24/2008 23:17
Christmas music for everyone (no really) Funny Zone 13 12/16/2008 00:56