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Lay Off the Proph
neilmarr
It seriously worries me that otherwise courageous publishers still quiver in their HushPupies when there's a threat of violence because Islam's in a huff.

The latest smelly stuff to hit the fan is that Random House has pulled out of a major new novel (by a Moslem woman) that fictionalises Mohamed's romance with one of his several wives.

Censorship in Moslem theocracies is one thing; that censorship should be indirectly but effectively imposed on the free west by sinister menace is quite another. I deplore the cowardice of publishers and others who are supposed to reflect our hard-won freedom of expression. Shame on them.

The whole sad story is here: http://online.wsj...lenews_wsj

Best wishes. Neil

*edit* made the link into a clicky Smile
Edited by Skeeve on 08/06/2008 07:30
 
schmoo
OK, from what I can see ONE INDIVIDUAL, another author, an author penning her own fictional account of an aspect of Islam no less, got upset, and started a great deal of noise about this book and essentially ruined any chance it had of getting a fair sampling. I note that none of the other people that got to read advance copies of it were even mentioned nor were there opinions submitted to bring some balance, just this one persons opinion caused this to snowball.

I think the one that started this bullshit should get the pants sued off her.
 
schmoo
I did get quite the irony induced chuckle out of her statement "I don't have a problem with historical fiction. I do have a problem with the deliberate misinterpretation of history. You can't play with a sacred history and turn it into soft core pornography."

So I'm guessing she's unaware that virtually every religious tome deliberately misinterprets history to its own ends, and they are ALL in essence historical FICTION.
 
Skeeve
schmoo wrote:
I did get quite the irony induced chuckle out of her statement "I don't have a problem with historical fiction. I do have a problem with the deliberate misinterpretation of history. You can't play with a sacred history and turn it into soft core pornography."



Apparently she's never read Songs of Solomon.
"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
Big Blue
When we modify our behaviour out of fear of what unreasonable fanatics may do, then they have won. We need to resist taking this "easy way" out if we are to preserve our freedom.
 
neilmarr
***When we modify our behaviour out of fear of what unreasonable fanatics may do, then they have won***

Too bloody right, Blue. Well said. But for publishers, newspapers and other media to knuckle under -- as our campaigning champions of free expression -- is appalling. Imagine how they would face down a secular group (a political party, for instance) if violence was even hinted at should they publish and be damned.

Neil
 
schmoo
LOL-Skeeve that was what I was thinking as well, but being Muslim she probably wouldn't have read that infidel trash literature.
Edited by schmoo on 08/06/2008 11:22
 
seeker
I still think the best solution is to give the Christians and Moslems sticks, put them all in the Middle East and watch the whole thing as a pay per view event. You would think they'd all be happy to play out their end time fantasies
 
neilmarr
Trouble is that whichever crazy crew won, Seeker, would come after the atheists next. I really think that when it comes to religious violence, atheists should be left alone, declare ourselves neutral like Switzerland. When some murderous crackpot wants to blow somewhere up, he should give all atheists fair warning so that they can go home. Neil
 
seeker
That's why we only give them sticks.Wink
 
catman
neilmarr wrote:Censorship in Moslem theocracies is one thing; that censorship should be indirectly but effectively imposed on the free west by sinister menace is quite another. I deplore the cowardice of publishers and others who are supposed to reflect our hard-won freedom of expression. Shame on them.

I couldn't agree more. We are allowing them to decide what we can read. It is nothing but "pure cowardice".
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
Skeeve
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Meh, I was bored...
Edited by Skeeve on 09/23/2008 17:33
"The world is my country, and do good is my religion." - Thomas Paine
 
Theory_Execution
I just realised why that picture was so offensive, I was looking at it from the wrong point of view. Its not a turban with a bomb in it, because they fully know suicide bombing is a part of their current culture.

Its actually a withering flower in a small vase, makes him look a bit gay. Now we cant have a gay prophet - hes their heterosexual war mongering, child marrying super dude.
 
Sinny
Ok let me get theis straight. No death threats or any threats were made when the advanced copy went out. Some bitch decided she didn't like it and made frantic phone calls, e-mail. All this because the book portrayed pedophile mohammed as a good guy who's wife enjoyed his filthy self all over her.

hmm so what's the offense the woman enjoyed sex with him or that the woman enjoyed sex period. I guess the offense is the suggestion, written as fiction, is that moslim women are human and enjoy sex and gasp with her husband.

Why aren't the moslims told if you don't like it then don't read it?
If the book isn't published, sold in their Country then mind your own business.

Does this Country worry about what they may be writing about Americans? Do other Countries worry about what they (moslims) write or say about their Country?
 
derF
What is really irritating about this kind of crap is that with Moslims (Atheists Today's latest reincarnation of Muslims) it's a delightful double standard for them. We are considered blasphemous for crossing their religious taboos but they never think twice about insulting other religions and cultures. (Just take ten minutes to brouse any of the Muslim countries newspapers.) Like a spoiled child their point of focus is ME, ME, ME, ME ! ! ! !
I'll drink to that. Or anything else for that matter.
 
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