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Michael Jackson dead.
sin
*sigh* I missed Nova. I have crap for TV now. Hope that changes for me soon. I'm thinking Fios.
 
Hypatia
Sin wrote:

I'm thinking Fios.


What's that Sin?

*Never mind - I GOOGLED it. Pfft Verizon bundled.

Never heard of it before now.

I'm such the nerd.

 
Bob of QF
catman wrote:
As a professional musician, I despise the pitch-correction gizmo. It's been available for several years for about $400 and can be used live or in the studio, with a "humanizing" function(!). I can usually tell if it is being used, by a synthetic quality which is introduced into the singing, although it's hard to tell if done well. I value singers who can sing on key naturally; to me, using that is just cheating.

Sorry about the mini-rant. I agree it is interesting in a gee-whiz sort of way. But as you could see from the program, it can make even a very poor singer sound good, and that just devalues the whole singing ability thing.


Oh, I quite agree, I value a good set of pipes myself, and I abhor amature off-key singing.

Years of taking violin lessons honed my relative pitch ear, and I cannot stand even 1/10 a note off-key with the instruments.

Which is why I cannot stand American Idol and the wannabe off-shoots.

It could also explain why I loathe country "music". That style of vocalization is deliberately all over the place, with the "note" buried in there somewhere or other...

...and yodeling. Canna stand yodeling.

/end soapbox

What I admired about the pitch-correction software was the technical aspect of it: it analyzed the sounds, and moved the whole set of tones, including the over-and under- tones in "sync" as it were. Not a trivial bit of analysis. Human voices (unless you're Alvin or very young) do not contain a single pitch. But you already knew that Smile I admired the software problem-- coming at it from a software engineer's perspective.
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derF
Many a long night of Karaoke would have been improved with the use of this device. Alas, it may be a little too expensive yet to clean up my local sushi bar's malignant crooners.
I'll drink to that. Or anything else for that matter.
 
sin
Ever get into the mood to listen to creepy mesmerizing music. Cool

http://www.youtub...1uOh2mbYm0

My neighbors are gonna kill me Grin

 
catman
Yeah, I like it pretty well, but I think some of the Penderecki on The Shining soundtrack is about as creepy as I've ever heard, and much more complex.
I've always liked music in a minor key, and the spookier the better.

I actually brought a woman to my house when I lived in Denton and played part of Gliere's Third Symphony for her, thinking she might like it. It freaked her out so much that she made me turn it off! But she was nuts. We actually got into a public, loud argument on campus when she started preaching to me. I wasn't in the mood and told her she was full of it.:upsetw:Grin
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
sin
the scene where Nicholson comes in from the snow with ax in his hand and the part where he kills the good guy previous caretaker on vacation for winter is good. The ending wasn't scary at all and I don't remember the beginning theme to it.

I vaguely remember the third symphony my Father used to listen to. I'm not that familiar. I'll have to try and find it somewhere on the internet to listen to. My Mother gave away everything musical he had. From what I do remember though it was nothing to be scared of. She must have been nuts Cat to be afraid so much she had you turn it off and the preaching ....well who could blame you.

I like the repetitious creepy sound to thriller music.
 
catman
sin: Sorry I didn't respond sooner! I feel the need to reinvigorate the Music section of the site. There are a lot of areas that we can revive.

You do realize that there are thousands of 'third symphonies', I'm sure. Beethoven's is quite well-known (the "Eroica" symphony). It could also be Brahms', Tchaikovsky's, etc. The symphony I referred to as my favorite, Reinhold Gliere's, is not nearly so well known; most people have never heard of Gliere, let alone his Third Symphony. But I do love it! It is great to play tuba and bass trombone with; I have the score of the symphony and know some of the parts.
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
derF
Oh, my god! Michael Jackson died! I can't believe it! When did this happen???? Why didn't someone tell me !!!!!!!

Personally I am a big fan of Ravel and Mahler and Copeland. I think that John Williams is one of our best living classical composers. But when you get into the history and the cataloging of classical music I am woefully short of education.

Edited? What, me edit? Go on!
Edited by derF on 08/08/2009 01:52
I'll drink to that. Or anything else for that matter.
 
catman
derF: I agree with you concerning Ravel (especially La Valse!) and Mahler. I like Copeland too, although I don't know that I'd place him in the company of Ravel & Mahler. However, i haven't heard that much by him.

I agree concerning John Williams, too. Soundtracks are IMO the best music being made today. John Barry (Goldfinger) also has done some high quality work.
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
Sinny
Hey Cat I don't know music like you do LOL. I only know what I hear and what my Father listened to all my life. He was real big on symphony and opera music. He just couldn't get enough of it. My hearing isn't all that great but I do listen to some music just not that much like I used to. I never got into playing an instrument which probably spared my Parents a lot more aggravation. They had more than enough of my record playing as a child and then all the CD's I eventually got. Sheesh I still remember records, 8tracks and Cassette tapes. It's funny in a way to see how my nieces and nephews have no clue what a record, album, or even cassette tape is. I bet my Father had that same Reinhold Gliere you are talking about. He had just about everything you could think of.
 
catman
I never had 8-tracks, but I've got lost of records (33s, 45s, 78s) and cassette tapes. I also have a bunch of reel-to-reel tapes, but I can't listen to any of them because both of my reel-to-reel machines are inoperative and it's hard to find anyone who can work on them. The tapes are so old that the coating might just flake away if I tried to play them. The oldest dates back to about 1962, and nearly all of them are over 30 years old.

But records last forever. Some of my 78s are 100 years old! I have two by Enrico Caruso, and a couple by Sousa's Band from circa WW1. My favorites are from the late 1920s.
Edited by catman on 08/09/2009 15:47
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
kjbluez
Sinny wrote:
It's funny in a way to see how my nieces and nephews have no clue what a record, album, or even cassette tape is.
I remember talking to a guy who was telling me a story of how he was in a mall somewhere, and he approached some girl to ask her where the "record store" was.

He said that she looked at him very strange, and told him that records were kept downtown somewhere in a public building. Realizing that she had no idea what he was talking about, he verified that he was talking about music, to which she replied "you mean the CD store?"

This guy had some other funny stories. He was an IT guy, oldschool, and remembered giving companies seminars on how a new technology called "e-mail" was likely to become a popular form of correspondence between people and companies.

He also told me a story of back in the day when fax machines were used a lot, a buddy of his kept getting advertisements from some company - very early form of spam except it cost the person receiving the fax because they had to pay for the paper (his machine was set up to print faxes as soon as they came in). So, eventually when the person got sick of the advertisements, he took several sheets of the dot matrix paper, wrote a message to "Stop sending me advertisements!," fed one end into the fax machine and taped it to the other end of the paper to make a loop, sent the fax to the person who was sending him advertisements, and then went home for the night.
He evidently came in the next morning and the loop of paper was still going, being faxed to the spammer.
Needless to say, the guy did not receive any more advertisements.
 
catman
That's one way to do it! It makes me feel sorry for the fax machines.

kjbluez: I see you made it back! Great!
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
Hypatia
Hi kjbluez - good to see you here. [img]http://www.pic4ever.com/images/3.gif[/img] is not a valid Image.

 
kjbluez
Hey, thanks everyone!

It's been a while. I've been studying for a degree in nursing now. I officially start nursing classes in a couple of weeks. had to get some prereq's out of the way. I always wanted to go into the healthcare field, but a speech impediment that I used to have basically screwed that. I have gotten over that now so I am moving on, now. I'm back in Indiana, moved to Austin (what fun!) for a while but moved back for the program here for various reasons. Then, it's probably back to Austin. My mom lives in Austin now as well and loves it.

A lot has happened since I was here last. I have a new pet youngun' now, my wife had a boy this last October and he is awesome. So, he has been keeping us busy as well. Glad to see familiar faces here!

Strange, I am in a thread that started with Michael Jackson. I saw a commercial the other night that was advertising selling prints of him; it was as cheesy as could be and made me giggle at some of the things they were saying. I like bleu cheese and roquefort, but this commercial made those cheeses look bland.

I liked MJ back in the day, I was a youngun' then (I remember getting a red jacket like his in the third grade, I think), but afterwards he just went weird. Buying out the Beatles material ruined it for me, but simply because I am against that sort of mentality - making money off of somebody else's creativity. I don't like the whole commercial music marketing anyways, though.

Anyways, cheers!
 
catman
I used to love Austin, back before it grew so fast and the traffic got so bad. I still like it. I spent the summer of 1968 playing a gig at the old Sheraton Crest at 1st and Congress (last time I saw it, it was a Radisson). Great times.

Yeah, I agree; when MJ outbid Paul McCartney for the Beatles catalog, it turned me off. It made me shudder. He went from being a cute little black kid to...I'm not sure. I did like Billie Jean because of the nice groove.
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
kjbluez
catman wrote:
I used to love Austin, back before it grew so fast and the traffic got so bad. I still like it. I spent the summer of 1968 playing a gig at the old Sheraton Crest at 1st and Congress (last time I saw it, it was a Radisson). Great times.

Yeah, I agree; when MJ outbid Paul McCartney for the Beatles catalog, it turned me off. It made me shudder. He went from being a cute little black kid to...I'm not sure. I did like Billie Jean because of the nice groove.
Yea, the traffic is something else. From what I heard, many of the people loosely referred to as the "fathers" of the city are very much against growth, or in the past that mentality was the norm. So, to dissuade growth, they purposely prevented upgrading the road system to create a problem for growth, but it didn't work.

As to how much truth there is to that story I don't know. I heard it a few times, but that could just be because maybe it is something that many of the people I hung around with would like to believe.

I have to admit I am turned off by the massive growth, which naturally leads to commercialism, and in turn ruins many of the aspects of the city that gives it that "big city with a small town attitude" feel. The last I heard, they canceled the "Eor's birthday party" because too many people were bringing their children thinking that it was a children's event (because of the Winnie the Pooh connection) - and it is not for children unless of course you are a liberal parent and don't shelter your child from crazy old hippies having a hell of a party. But, without knowing what the event is and without researching it a bit to find out that it is a big (adult-oriented) party, I could totally see how people could make that mistake.

But, for the most part, it was a great place with great people, and I experienced an atmosphere that I've not experienced before here in little-ole closed-minded Indiana. And, there was just so much to do and see. Now, with my mom having moved there and having made so many friends there, I totally plan on moving back.
 
Hypatia
Well then KJ - congrats X 2 for you - on your bouncing baby boy, and on completing those prereq's and now moving on to nursing school. That's all absolutely fantastic - very happy for you indeed.

I liked Austin myself - had a nice progressive kind of feel to it, what with the music scene and all. But it's been a very long time since I've been there and it isn't like I really got to know the place well, since I didn't live there, but only visited and had an extended stay once.

It's nice with all the lakes close by.




 
catman
I dunno if the lakes are much to see these days. South Texas is having a terrible drought. Almost everything south of Austin- San Antonio is in an 'exceptional drought', the worst type.

Austin is too hot and humid for me. If I ever move, I'm headed for New Mexico or possubly Far West Texas (Alpine-Marfa-Fort Davis). Somewhere between Alamogordo and Albuquerque, probably.
"If I owned both Hell and Texas, I'd live in Hell and rent out Texas." - General Sheridan
 
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